Leading Learning Podcast

Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele have been running Tagoras, a firm that advises organizations in the continuing education world, for years. This show is basically them thinking out loud about the business of teaching adults, and after more than 475 episodes they've built one of the most practical archives you'll find on the subject. If your job touches professional development, association learning programs, certification courses, or any kind of grown-up training, the conversations here will feel like they were made for you. The format switches between solo episodes where Jeff and Celisa walk through a specific topic, and interviews with people actually running learning businesses. Expect concrete talk about pricing models, how to market a course without sounding desperate, what AI is changing in instructional design, and how learner expectations keep shifting. They skip the fluff and the jargon that plagues corporate training talk. You get real numbers, real mistakes, real lessons. Episodes run around 30 to 45 minutes, which feels about right for a commute or a walk. The hosts have strong opinions but they're not preachy, and they actually listen to their guests instead of waiting for a turn to talk. Anyone building a course, running a training department, or trying to make education pay its own way will probably end up subscribed after one listen. It's one of those shows that quietly makes you better at your job.