Leading Learning Podcast

Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele from Tagoras have been running this show for a remarkable 472 episodes, making it one of the true veterans in the learning space. Their focus is slightly different from pure corporate L&D -- they look at the business of learning itself, which includes associations, continuing education providers, and professional development organizations. That broader lens actually makes it more useful, not less, because the business principles apply everywhere. The co-hosting dynamic between Jeff and Celisa is a real strength. They clearly know each other's thinking well enough to build on ideas rather than just trade talking points. Recent episodes have covered social learning objects, lean startup methodology applied to learning organizations, mindset theory for adult learners, and strategic planning for 2026. They also bring in outside experts when a topic warrants it. With a 4.9-star rating from 43 reviews, the show has earned deep trust from its audience. Episodes come out regularly and typically run 30-40 minutes. The show is especially valuable if you think about learning as a business function with reach, revenue, and impact as interconnected challenges. Jeff and Celisa bring a consultancy-honed perspective that helps you think more strategically about your learning programs, regardless of whether you work at a nonprofit, a membership organization, or a corporation.